Oroville Dam Has Stopped Reducing Water Level

4 03 2017

SUNDAY NIGHT UPDATE: They have OUTFLOW

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?ORO

Pretty decent numbers tonight –

IN: 13.5k   OUT: 17.3k

MARCH 5 –  KRCR:Lake Oroville rising 2.6 feet in the past 24-hours. The lake remains 39 feet below the top of the emergency spillway.

California requests $440 mn [from state] for flood control after dam crisis
[Brown] asked the state legislature to approve 387 million for use from a water infrastructure fund in addition to 50 million from a state general fund. . . “
“. . . .President Donald Trump cleared the path to release federal aid for the dam after a request from Brown, who had already declared a state of emergency to mobilize local resources. “
– – – Why doesn’t he just ask Nestle?

MONDAY A.M.:

waterlevel3617

MONDAY AFTERNOON –

The Outflow is MORE than the Inflow – The water height stays at 855 feet without dramatic rise.

See more UPDATE material in COMMENTS

– – – – earlier – – –

This doesn’t look good!

WATER LEVEL LIVE DATA

LINK –  http://youtu.be/_wFQX21ufYE

SEE the CHART at 9:10 min. mark –

LINK –  http://youtu.be/LHqFA_rHRfU

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Friday they got the power plant working and got some water to drain through it …. (chart)

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UPDATE: An explanation for the outflow shut-off

Sacramento BeeState officials temporarily shut down power plant at Lake Oroville

” . . . Officials turned off the plant at 10 a.m. Saturday and began efforts to deepen the channel at the base of the plant, which will allow for increased releases. They expect the shutdown to last one to two days.”

Rainfall Projections Will Overtop Emergency Spillway By 13 Feet

LINK –  http://youtu.be/eVaSg5Idgms

Californians – recall in Hurricane Rita the gas pumps didn’t work (gasoline ran out + power outages and no pumps working) so at least get all the gas you need in advance if you are sticking around for the traffic jam too-late-evacuation.

Thanks, K. M. for the news tip 😉 – F.C.

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4 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

4 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

4 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

4 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

5 03 2017
NEWS | The Louisiana Sinkhole Bugle

[…] Something has gone massively wrong at that dam in California […]

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

LIVE CAM

– shows outflow stats (at 0)

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Oroville Update: Dam’s Power Plant Shut Down Again, and Problems Emerge Downriver.
Excerpt: After hearing a declaration like that, you might involuntarily say “uh oh” when what you’ve been told is a big step forward is interrupted without explanation.
…DWR Acting Director Bill Croyle said the agency planned to have all five running by early next week, which would allow a release of about 14,000 cfs…The reason: Crews need to remove more of the rock, rubble and sediment from the debris-choked channel downstream of the power facility to allow it to operate full bore. From the release:

“We will dig deeper so we can fully ramp the plant up,” said DWR Acting Director Bill Croyle…DWR engineers have determined that further deepening of the channel will help the power plant reach full capacity and that it will take approximately 1-2 days, at which time the plant will be restarted….Steep banks along the river started collapsing after DWR abruptly cut flows down the damaged spillway on Monday from 50,000 cfs to zero…With high water no longer propping up the shores, the still-wet soil crashed under its own weight, sometimes dragging in trees, rural roads and farmland, they said.

“The damage is catastrophic,” said Brad Foster, who has waterfront property in Marysville (Yuba County), about 25 miles south of Lake Oroville.

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/02/07/engineers-assess-spillway-problem-at-oroville-dam/

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

…state Department of Water Resources, which runs the dam, said Friday that they’re monitoring the river for erosion. But they declined to discuss the situation.

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

you bet they declined to discuss it … after all millions of people don’t live downstream with no way out except 2 lane roads surrounded by water and ready-to-slide hills.

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I think the new trench will last less than 48 hours …

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I don’t think the canal is wide enough or deep enough to handle the kind of output we saw the last two weeks. All of the waterways below the dam have not been adjusted to handle the extra, enormous volume of water that is sure to occur. The additional rain, warmer weather, and 600 inches of snow melt will add further strain to the 9 dams at capacity north of the Oroville dam. These 9 dams feed Lake Oroville.

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

like throwing popcorn at a hurricane!

5 03 2017
5 03 2017
tom Funst

Snow-Melt = XX Cubic Feet
Oroville Dam Capacity = XX Cubic Feet
Failure Point Cubic Foot Capacity = XX Cubic Feet
How Many Cubic Foot Wall of Water Can Be Stopped In It’s Track = 0

So Why Are Evacuations Not Already Under Way?

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

They need to start EARLY due to traffic jam factor! This will be worse than Katrina! Worse than Jonestown Flood!

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Oroville dam output is still at 0cfs, with more rain on the way. TRUMPET news will broadcast another live stream tonight.
Watch “LIVE 🔴 Oroville Dam URGENT UPDATE reservoir spillway LAKE 3-5-17”

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

damage footage ….

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

The Oroville dam outflow(out/cfs) is still 0cfs and the reservoir level(surface/feet) is continuously rising.
Redding: Lake Levels: Oroville Dam Levels.
http://rdcfeeds.redding.com/lakelevels/oro.cfm

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I know – the live feed guy tonight will probably show that chart inset into the picture.

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Here’s the link for the live TRUMPET News YouTube video. I just tried to watch this video and received the message, “This video has been removed by user.” Keep checking back for either this live video or the recorded video. The link from You tube does not look like normal YouTube links. I’ll repost if I get more information. He may be having problems because he’s away from home and recording from a hotel room.
He could just be having upload difficulties, TPTB troubles.
🔴 TRUMPET NEWS is live now: LIVE 🔴 Oroville Dam URGENT UPDATE reservoir spillway LAKE 3-5-17

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=DBdPY4KIUt3dx9y3&u=/watch%3Fv%3D8-Q4sq26ZIg%26feature%3Dem-lbcastemail

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

oh, no … I will check ..
I think he’s just not live yet …..
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrjbXVSBRn8GSHnehE8jDzA/videos

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

He plays music before his stream goes live for early listeners. I don’t hear any music.
Oroville dam output is still 0cfs.

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I’m at TRUMPET NEWS channel and all I see recently is a 3 min. vid. posted.

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

Do you know where the edge (overflow point) of the dam is? How high? Is it 900 feet or 950?
The water is above 855 feet and creeping up.
There’s probably a fancy water-management name for it.

5 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s on right now. Gotta go!!
Watch “LIVE 🔴 Oroville Dam UPDATE – BACK ONLINE reservoir spillway LAKE 3-5-17”

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

great!

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

ugh! Now W0rdpress is blocking MY comments!!! 😦

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

5 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

West’s Super Floods May Wash Over Aging Dams, Scientists Warn
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wests-super-floods-may-wash-171002494.html

“Dams aren’t built to withstand every curveball nature can throw—only the weather events that engineers deem most likely to occur within the dam’s lifespan. When many Western dams were built in the mid-20th century, the best science to determine such probabilities came from historical records and stream gauges.

But that record only stretches back to the late 1800s, a timespan Baker calls “completely inadequate.” …”

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

lake is up 8 inches in an hour(!) … was 1-2 inches earlier.

03/06/2017 03:00 (A M) 854.90
03/06/2017 04:00 (A M) 854.98

6 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

7 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

7 03 2017
Oroville Dam WEEK 3 – The Water Level Rising | flying cuttlefish picayune

[…] Sunday and Monday water level reports here. […]

7 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I made a comment in the past that people, including myself, did not see any rebar. I stand corrected. I looked for my comment on past threads, but I couldn’t find the comment.
Showing Rebar.
Watch “Oroville Update 7 March 2017 “Where’s the rebar.””

03/07/2017 –4:00pm 857.71 2913111 3503 3561 3291 39.48 13.4

8 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

that vid is up somewhere [in comments] … new drone footage of the break off point shows how little rebar the was.

8 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Flyingcuttlefish is having difficulties accessing and editing her blog. right now.
The critical height of the Oroville reservoir is 860 feet, according to officials. At this level the emergency spillway will be reopened. The pictures and videos I have seen do not indicate they are prepared to reopen the spillway. At 4:00PM PST, 03.08.17 the Oroville Lake level was at 859.14 feet.
Oroville Dam
MAXIMUM CAPACITY 900′
DATE/TIME(PST) SURFACE | STORAGE |
03/08/2017 –4:00pm 859.14 2932839

9 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Oroville Dam
MAXIMUM CAPACITY 900′
DATE/TIME(PST) SURFACE | STORAGE
03/09/2017 –4:00pm 859.92 2943639

10 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Oroville Dam
MAXIMUM CAPACITY 900′
DATE/TIME(PST) SURFACE(FEET) STORAGE
03/10/2017–6:00am 860.08 2945859

10 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I heard last night and again on this video that the surface height of Lake Oroville, before the damaged spillway will be reopened, has been bumped up from 860 feet to 865 feet.
Watch “🔴 Oroville dam 3-10-17 Update “This spillway WILL be used again” SNOW MELT IS ON – reservoir lake”

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http://rdcfeeds.redding.com/lakelevels/oro.cfm

10 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

My comment is missing, which is no surprise to me. I’ll posting again, without the 03.17.17 TRUMPET news video.
I heard last night and again on this video that the surface height of Lake Oroville, before the damaged spillway will be reopened, has been bumped up from 860 feet to 865 feet. Looks like daytime mountain temperatures will be warming to at 10°F above freezing next week.
Watch “🔴 Oroville dam 3-10-17 Update “This spillway WILL be used again” SNOW MELT IS ON – reservoir lake”

10 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

My mistake. The video is from 03.10.17, and I was able to post the video’s title. You can just cut and paste the title into your Youtube search window.

11 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

This is the second video TRUMPET news released today. The monologue begins at 4:10. All of the TRUMPET news videos have a long introductory song to let people watching the live show know that the broadcast will begin shortly.
Watch “ALERT 🔴 Oroville dam 3-10-17 MOST recent Update on EVACUATION info for reservoir, lake”

11 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

My video would not post. I’ll just send the title again. This is the second video today. The monologue begins at 4:10. All of the TRUMPET news videos have a long introductory song to let people watching the live show know that the broadcast will begin shortly.
Watch “ALERT 🔴 Oroville dam 3-10-17 MOST recent Update on EVACUATION info for reservoir, lake”

11 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

The inflow & outflow numbers have disappeared. The above freezing mountain temperatures will begin melting the 600 inch snow pack next week. Let’s hope the missing numbers is a temporary problem. I’m going to try to send links for the dam flow stats and the dam CAM. I’m assuming the CAM is live, not prerecorded from a month ago, or in a 24-hour loop to trick the public. Just keep an eye on the big rock and the small tree, in the zoomed CAM shot for an indication of water level rise.
Oroville Dam
MAXIMUM CAPACITY 900′
DATE/TIME SURFACE | STORAGE | OUT | IN | RIV REL | RAIN | BAT VOL
(PST) FEET AF CFS CFS CFS INCHES VOLTS
03/11/2017 –12:00am 860.37 2949883 12906 14450 11025 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –1:00am 860.39 2950161 12971 16123 11036 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –2:00am 860.40 2950300 12969 15386 11057 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –3:00am 860.43 2950716 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –4:00am 860.43 2950716 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –5:00am 860.45 2950994 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –6:00am 860.46 2951134 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –7:00am 860.48 2951410 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –8:00am 860.49 2951550 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –9:00am 860.50 2951689 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –10:00am 860.52 2951967 — — — 39.48 13.4
03/11/2017 –11:00am — — — — — — —
CFS = Cubic foot per second
AF = Acre foot which is 43,560 cubic feet

http://rdcfeeds.redding.com/lakelevels/oro.cfm

CAM
http://134.186.221.203/hls-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/oroville.m3u8

11 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

The stats didn’t copy very well from my mobile device. But if you’ve seen this chart before, then you can probably figure out where the columns should be on the chart. The links came through this time.

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Video didn’t post again. I’ll try posting without the video. You can paste the video’s title into your Youtube search window.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Video wouldn’t post.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

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Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

31 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

[Note – we were offline a long spell due to internet connection outage – FC]

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

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Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

——————-
Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

——————-
Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

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Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

comment not showing.

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch”New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17″ on ebuTuoY

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Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on ebuTuoY

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch”New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17″ on ebuTuoY

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Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on ebuTuoY

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Here’s the missing video.
“Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on ebuTuoY.

12 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube
——————-
Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

13 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

——————-
Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

13 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

It’s difficult to post videos without Flyingcuttlefish to pull my videos out of banishment.
Looks like main spillway use will resume 17 March, maybe sooner.
Watch “New Drone Video | Spillway to resume 40-50k cfs Soon | Lake Oroville Dam Updates | 3-12-17” on YouTube

——————-
Watch “Oroville 12 March update River Valve Outlet System Explained” on YouTube

16 03 2017
pisca

Trouble posting but I’m sure FC is trying to correct!
Earlier links didn’t post so will try a test….

31 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

thanks!

16 03 2017
pisca

TEST
March 15 update

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Looks like the main spillway will be reopened possibly on Friday or Saturday. The lake level continues to rise. The spillway has yet to be repaired to its former smooth state. Repair crews have reinforced crushal areas with a quick setting concrete. This includes the very important dam-side of the main spillway hole. I’ve read that the California Department of Water Resources does not want the fast moving water to create a back flow that eats away the materials under the main spillway back towards the dam.
Watch “LIVE BREAKING 🔴 3-16-17 Oroville Dam spillway ABOUT TO BE OPENED! UPDATE Residents speak out” on YouTube

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Another comment missing. Yea, Flyingcuttlefish told me that she’s trying regain access to her blog.

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I’ll retry posting without the links. That sometimes works. Then people can cut and paste the title of the video into the YouTube search window.

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Looks like the main spillway will be reopened possibly on Friday or Saturday. The lake level continues to rise. The spillway has yet to be repaired to its former smooth state. Repair crews have reinforced crushal areas with a quick setting concrete. This includes the very important dam-side of the main spillway hole. I’ve read that the California Department of Water Resources does not want the fast moving water to create a back flow that eats away the materials under the main spillway back towards the dam.
“LIVE BREAKING 🔴 3-16-17 Oroville Dam spillway ABOUT TO BE OPENED! UPDATE Residents speak out”

16 03 2017
pisca

TY for update! Curious about why Orville “news” might be censored?
Upthread ^^^ (3/7) Week 3 post seems to be posting comments (but not links)
and it loads faster.

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Most of the time–as you’ve seen in my post–I will post the title of the link without the http or “watch” & “YouTube.” Sometimes that works sometimes that doesn’t.

31 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

WP is very screwy with comments! Plus when I write a blog post my connection slows down to edit or post or my connection stops and I have to restart my computer!
They don’t like my blog, dem baddies!

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

YouTube

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

ebuTuoY

16 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Read the word in my last comment backwards. That seemed to post OK. But when I spelled that word the correct way, it would not post. Now you see why I sometimes post my links raw–without the extras. Key words are censored.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

great!

I am back online now….

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

This was sent in —-

Straightforward clips:
California DWR: https://www.youtube.com/user/calwater
AND:
This guy’s a 777 Dreamliner Jockey with a very informed perspective on the engineering side of what’s going on: https://youtu.be/c16dr9qzlZY
This video answered my questions about the engineering limitations of the power plant. It includes footage about the types of turbines involved and how they’re installed / how they fail. Manufacturer’s video on Rock-Bolts and rock-bolting that explains how they’ve shored up the upper spillway and Geologists on site reporting how they’re coordinating the repair efforts with conditions there to best focus those efforts.

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

In this recording of a live broadcast, the TRUMPET News guy downloads a pdf at 11:28 from the California Department of Water Resources inspection report from about September 2014. In the inspection report he notices that inspectors found seepage in the dam, spillway doors were too old, cracks in the liner or something, and other problems. He talks in different spots in this video. TRUMPET News will try to curry the footage of the reopening of the spillway gates.
“LIVE 🔴 OROVILLE DAM Lake SPILLWAY WATCH AND CHAT 3-16-17 – POOLING YOUR INFO HERE” on ebuTuoY

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

In this recording of a live broadcast, the TRUMPET News guy downloads a pdf at 11:28 from the California Department of Water Resources inspection report from about September 2014. In the inspection report he notices that inspectors found seepage in the dam, spillway doors were too old, cracks in the liner or something, and other problems. He talks in different spots in this video. TRUMPET News will try to curry the footage of the reopening of the spillway gates.
“LIVE 🔴 OROVILLE DAM Lake SPILLWAY WATCH AND CHAT 3-16-17 – POOLING YOUR INFO HERE” on ebuTuoY

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Discussion of inspection report.
“OROVILLE DAM UPDATE – “SPILLWAY NOW OPENED! 3-17-17 🔴 SHOCKING INFORMATION LAKE CAM” on ebuTuoY.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

this is the URL:

youtube —
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17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“LIVE 🔴 OROVILLE DAM Lake SPILLWAY WATCH AND CHAT 3-16-17 – POOLING YOUR INFO HERE” on ebuTuoY

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Here is my comment on this above video.
In this recording of a live broadcast, the TRUMPET News guy downloads a pdf at 11:28 from the California Department of Water Resources inspection report from about September 2014. In the inspection report he notices that inspectors found seepage in the dam, spillway doors were too old, cracks in the liner or something, and other problems. He talks in different spots in this video. TRUMPET News will try to curry the footage of the reopening of the spillway gates.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I will try an locate these sequestered comments and just post them all (nevermind if they have repeat info).

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

Thanks for keeping the updates going during my internet outage… 🙂

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Missing rest of comment. Especially watch at 11:28 of the above ebuTuoY video. He will try to get hold of live coverage of spillway gates reopening.

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

They will gradually increase the water flow in the hours after opening the spillway to 50,000cfs.
“Spillway Press Briefing Highlights and Q&A | Spillway Reopens | Lake Oroville Dam Updates 3-17-17” on ebuTuoY

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Raw Video: Water Flows Again Down Damaged Oroville Dam Spillway” on ebuTuoY.

17 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Spillway Reopens | Aerial View | Lake Oroville Dam Updates 3-17-17” on ebuTuoY.

18 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Here’s a good video by Blancolirio during the reopening of the main spillway. I’ve also watched a ebuTuoY video stating and showing that the Feather River rose 10 feet in the hours after the spillway reopened.
“Oroville 17 March Spectacular Re-Opening of Main Spillway” on ebuTuoY.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

thanks a million!
If I knew all this would be such a huge thing I would have mad a seperate blog just about it.
But I have internet comapany payment woes….

19 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Disclosure Media” is headed for Oroville on Wednesday, 22 March.
“New Images – Traveling to Oroville – Lake Oroville Dam Updates 3-19-17” on ebuTuoY.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

good!

20 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Oroville Dam in Danger Again!? Huge Storms headed to California!” on ebuTuoY.

20 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Oroville Dam in Danger Again!? Huge Storms headed to California!” on ebuTuoY.

20 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“Trump Declares State Of Emergency For California’s Oroville Dam, Winter Storms” on ebuTuoY.

21 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Something’s wrong with their calculation of input and output cfs. Their calculations have been suspect in the past. Between 5am & 6am this morning the inflow increased by a little over 17,000 cfs, with RIV REL and power plant output remaining relatively similar. Yet output still fell by 50cfs. So, if the Oroville Lake input rose by a little over 17,000cfs and the output increased by 50cfs, then still have a net input gain of 17,000cfs. How can the Oroville Lake storage decrease by 1,600 AF if the lake input increases by 17,000cfs.
RIV
Day Time Storage OUT IN REL
03/21/2017–5:00am 2799909 45586 10027 46769
03/21/2017–6:00am 2798304 45611 27123 46616

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

very concerning…

I just saw this …

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Mar. 29 2017
Oroville Dam

dam conversation

[copied comments]

giggleherz?I hope everything is going ok??

musicmad?ok – thx – will watch a bit and try to? learn more

giggleherz?If I lived downstream I would want to be able to go online and see a live? video feed of the spillway. That way no one has to wait for a notice and no second guessing.

Earl Shine?Nicole LeMire: I only followed half a year of engineering then switched to geography, but they taught me that metal will erode under pressure and metal fatigue, ball bearings of turbine? also wear off

Nick Bernardoni?welcome back? @wake-up-now

giggleherz?Any chance the authorities would allow a high res. camera? 24/7 available to everyone?

Dig Engineer?@Claus Drastrup @Don Moore HPP rooms are large, complex, and should guess probably poorly maintained as everything else. i got concerned when DWR pubished photo with lots of sandbags for leaks seepage?

Claus Drastrup?@Earl Shine yes ask every plummer about old water supply metal pipe lines,? probably why they use plastic today mostly.

Ashley Parry?live feed of the spillway would? be good

Meaty Oaker?looks like another vicious? nasty storm getting ready to come up from Mississippi and Louisiana, they dont need this right now

Nicole LeMire?lol @Ashley Parry that is your standard hello? lol ?? wb

Nicole LeMire?hi @Nick Bernardoni?

Ashley Parry?lol yeah jst? checking in on you guys again hope alls well ?

giggleherz?I was really? shocked when I was finally able to find a simulation of how far the water will travel. So many people in danger.

Nicole LeMire?big debates on? the integrity of the dam and Vjoint; wht do you think?

Pat Georgeson?17:00 838.55 ? 2657667 11605 17009

Nicole LeMire?IKR @giggleherz how? long did they say it would take start to finish?

Claus Drastrup?@Dig Engineer yes its a very complex situation this. If I? should design a new hpp, I would use 600 small turbines instead of 6, much more handy, and a supply system with siphons, much more safe.

Nicole LeMire?hi and? ty @Pat Georgeson ??

Pat Georgeson?hi nicola ???

Meaty Oaker?Hi? @Ashley Parry

Nightbot?CURRENT LEVELS AS OF: 03/29/2017 5:00pm – FEET=838.55 OUT=11,605cfs? IN=17,009cfs

Dig Engineer?@Nicole LeMire @jayze10 or any other chatter that cares? to please define explain again “Vjoint” location so as to follow concern

Ashley Parry?is there any time/date given when they can say everything is o.k? with the work carried out on the spillway ?

Earl Shine?Claus Drastrup: I once had contact with a water cie about the new water pipes at a building site that was? very polluted: they went for copper, plastic pipes were permeable for toxines

Dig Engineer?@Ashley Parry despite what you may hear the short anser is NO. Still, from? June to Nov. things should be “safer” then rain season comes

Ashley Parry?Meaty Oaker ever here johnny cash a boy called sue ? lol im? a dude

daemn42?Don, small correction from earlier. The GCD? tunnels were (like Oro’s ESW) meant only to be used in an emergency. They had never been used before. Cavitation started at 20% of their capacity.

Ashley Parry?guess time will be the only proof then ??

Meaty Oaker?@Ashley Parry they? are still in demo mode, not even close to repairs and ok umm thats great, so am i

Nicole LeMire?@Dig? Engineer to my understanding; the connection point between the SW gates and the dam wall; confirm?

daemn42?But? also like both of Oro’s spillways GCD operators were forced to use them after they were damaged, and neither of them at even half capacity

Ashley Parry?so is? there a temporary system in place then ? news on this is limited in ireland

giggleherz?Start to finish about eight ours (eight hours of deep water) Its the? distance it will travel like a Sunami.

daemn42?Ashley, right now, the temporary system is to run the MSW at 40-50K CFS into the natural flow channel at the bottom,? until res level drops to 835ft, then shut it off quickly.

daemn42?Currently they can’t run at less than 40K? (they tested it at 35K and 30K briefly so that may be the new low point next time) without increasing erosion immediately below the break in MSW

Ashley Parry?thanks world of knowledge here really interesting stuff & i? hope everyone stays safe

21 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Something’s wrong with their calculation of input and output cfs. Their calculations have been suspect in the past. Between 5am & 6am this morning the inflow increased by a little over 17,000 cfs, with RIV REL and power plant output remaining relatively similar. Yet output still fell by 50cfs. So, if the Oroville Lake input rose by a little over 17,000cfs and the output increased by 50cfs, then still have a net input gain of 17,000cfs. How can the Oroville Lake storage decrease by 1,600 AF if the lake input increases by 17,000cfs. I had the chart attached to this comment as proof, but my comment wouldn’t post. So I took the chart off my comment.

21 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

The chart’s at this address if you want to check for yourself.
http://rdcfeeds.redding.com/lakelevels/oro.cfm

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

thanks

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I will look for it….

22 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

A good explanation and many short videos about repair work to the main spillway and surroundings.
“Oroville 21 March Update “Rockbolts and Repairs”” on ebuTuoY.

25 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Disclose Media interviews Blancolirio.
“Interview with Juan Browne blancolirio about Lake Oroville Dam | 3-24-17” on ebuTuoY

25 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

This is to give you an idea of the turbulent water rushing down the spillway from a live Disclosure Media CAM. The CAM angle never changes. So you basically see the same look-angle throughout the entire video.
“Lake Oroville Spillway 3-24-17” on ebuTuoY.

26 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Nick(Disclosure Media) says that California DWR will not grant the press access to the spillway construction site.
“Exclusive Footage | Lake Oroville Dam Spillway | 3-25-2017” on ebuTuoY.

26 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I missed this Oroville dam video on 03.22. The monologue begins at the 5:00 mark. He mostly discusses
“LIVE 🔴 Oroville Dam SPILLWAY ‘Significant Risk’ update 3-22-17” on ebuTuoY.
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Here’s a copy of the article he references in the above video.
APNewsBreak: California may face ‘significant risk’ from Oroville dam.
Excerpt: …water was even seeping from seemingly undamaged stretches of the main spillway, the five-member team found. Only 12 inches thick, the concrete spillway is heavily patched, at some places by clay stuffed into holes below the concrete…The experts called it “absolutely critical” that the dam’s state operators not use the faulty emergency spillway again.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/22/apnewsbreak-california-may-face-significant-risk-from-dam/

26 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

Discussion with Disclosure Media on Nicks trip to Oroville dam.
“Breaking News & Exclusive Footage, Oroville Spillway, Mar 26 2017, Its Falling Apart!” on ebuTuoY.

28 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I posted a video earlier in this comment section, by TRUMPET News, in which a document was discovered stating the spillway should not be used again, existing problems with the spillway gates, and leaks were found in the dam. California DWR is concerned about undercutting the first section of spillway back towards the dam, which would eat away the dam. The California DWR guy said they would allow Lake Oroville reservoir to rise to 865 feet, again. If the dam is already leaking, the dam’s integrity would surely be compromised.
“Lake Oroville Spillway Press Briefing | 3-27-2017” on ebuTuoY.

30 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

The Trumpet News video about the multiple dam problems was posted 17 March.

30 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

I just watched it.
I am pretty sure we got it posted in earlier comments …

It deserved wide viewing ….

30 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

and here’s a report of same by this good guy who knows all about the engineering ….

28 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

“New Drone Video – Spillway Shutdown – Lake Oroville Dam Update 3-28-17” on ebuTuoY.

29 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

Thanks for keeping the blog updated during my internet outage 🙂

30 03 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

👌😀

30 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

comment on the newer Oroville dam post if you see news about melting snow up in the mountains coming down 😉

30 03 2017
flyingcuttlefish

OK – I think it will show up:

1 04 2017
Keith C. Mandeville

I see Flyingcuttlefish is back online. I’ll start posting new articles and videos on newly added Oroville dam threads.
This video gives no facts. Cassandra, a resident of Oroville, just announces that she will seek the truth. I’ve subscribed to her channel to see what kind of information she uncovers and am looking forward to some video footage by a local.
“Lets Get the FACTS about OROVILLE DAM 3-31-17” on ebuTuoY.

1 04 2017
flyingcuttlefish

That’s a good idea.
I subscribed too.

Here’s the vid – – –

1 04 2017
flyingcuttlefish

due to news from SacBee I will do a new dam post tonight. Hold off on comments til I get new post up.
Gov officials hid dam docs….

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